
Podcast by Tara (Conti) Bansal and Christina (Conti) Donovan

Podcast by Tara (Conti) Bansal and Christina (Conti) Donovan

24 February 2026
Tina never could have imagined that Long Term Care (LTC) would be a frequent conversation topic within her social circles. But this past year – it seems to come up time and time again. It makes sense. As we move through middle age, many of us are watching our parents or other loved ones age. We begin to observe firsthand both the benefits of possessing long-term care coverage and the potential risks associated with lacking it. The overall topic of LTC can feel daunting. It touches health, money, independence, and the uncomfortable reality that none of us are immune to aging. It is all too easy to put off thinking about and planning for this stage. It was the result of these recurring conversations with her peers as well as her own ignorance on this topic, that Tina proposed this as an episode for Messy Middlescence. Tara, through her work as a financial planner, knew the perfect person to demystify this topic and answer common questions. Victoria Beerer is the Long Term Care Specialist at Rambart-Hilb Agency, and brings her 15+ years of experience and knowledge with Long Term Care to help us understand what LTC really is, how it works, and what has changed over the past 20 years. Most importantly, Victoria shares why starting the conversation earlier matters more than most of us realize. The information Victoria provides in this episode is both comprehensive and straightforward. Regardless of where LTC is on your radar, you will not regret tuning in for this episode.
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10 February 2026
Tara and Tina are big readers. They come from a family of readers and books are always a part of their conversation when they are together. They love to share opinions about books they have read, are reading and hope to read. Last season, Tara and Tina did an episode where they discussed their favorite books of the previous year (episode #24). They had so much fun on that episode they wanted to do it again! So, on today’s episode they discuss the books from 2025 that touched, entertained and had an impact on them – both fiction and nonfiction. They also discuss books they are looking forward to reading in the upcoming year. They hope they inspire you to think about the books you enjoyed this past year as well as take away some additions to your reading list.
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27 January 2026
There’s something compelling about the idea of a clean slate or fresh start as we begin a new year. Rather than setting long lists of goals or resolutions, many people find that choosing a theme—or a single word—creates a more meaningful and sustainable way to invite change.
For the past two seasons of Messy Middlescence, Tara and Tina have shared their personal themes and words for the year ahead, and they continue that tradition in today’s short (but sweet) episode. Together, they reflect on their chosen words and the intentions behind them along with the changes and enrichment they hope it will help bring them throughout the upcoming year.
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14 January 2026
Most of us know someone who seems to defy aging – a friend or relative who is around our age -- but appears many years younger and who radiates vitality and good health. We look at them with a mix of admiration and, perhaps, envy. For Tina and Tara, that person is their sister, Cindy, who is the healthiest person they know. Her natural beauty is enhanced by her healthy habits and active lifestyle. Cindy has always had a passion for organic foods, natural remedies and overall wellness but she also has a Master’s in Kinesiology (exercise science) and currently works as a nurse. Tara and Tina thought a conversation with Cindy would be perfect to kick off the first Messy Middlescence episode of 2026. In this age of social media, those of us over 50 are inundated with information about “healthy aging”. However, Tina and Tara believe that listening to the fitness and nutrition routines (and how they have changed with age) from someone they trust could motivate both them and others to make changes in their own routines and lifestyles. The goal here is not just about looking youthful; it is about developing habits which make us feel good and in turn positively affect our overall appearance and energy. Topics discussed today include:
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09 December 2025
It is that time of year when “busyness” abounds. The days are short — and feel even shorter — as our to-do lists loom large. In recognition of the time constraints that December brings, and the natural reflections that come with the close of a year, Tara and Tina bring you a quick and timely episode of their favorite things from 2025.
You might remember a similar episode from their first season, and this felt like the perfect moment to do it again. Tara and Tina discuss their favorite things from the past year — the items and small discoveries that genuinely made a positive difference in their lives.
They hope this episode nudges you to reflect on — and share — the things that brought you joy in 2025.
And if you're curious about any of the items mentioned, you can find links to everything in the show notes on the Messy Middlescence website.
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25 November 2025
In this episode, Tara and Tina explore the longing so many of us feel for a simple gathering ritual — and the very real challenges that keep us from creating one. Inspired by Samin Nosrat’s reflections on the power of regular connection, they talk honestly about hosting anxieties, perfection pressure, and why gathering feels both beautiful and hard. A warm conversation about presence, friendship, and designing rituals that fit real life.
Earlier this fall, Tina accidentally found herself following Samin Nosrat’s entire media tour. Nosrat — the author of the bestselling cookbook and Netflix series Salt, Fat, Acid, Heat — has a new cookbook out called Good Things, and by pure coincidence Tina kept stumbling onto interviews, articles, and podcasts about her. What stayed with her wasn’t the recipes. It was the message underneath them. In each interview and article, Nosrat tells the same story with the same message. She describes how after years of work she finally achieved everything she had ever dreamed of with Salt, Fat, Acid, Heat — and yet she was completely miserable. A regularly scheduled dinner party literally saved her life. She learned that gathering the people you care about is essential to a meaningful life. And the focus of her new book is all about bringing people together. Gathering is what is important and needed in our lives — it is not the food, not the table, nor all the little details we can get hung up on. Her eloquent and persuasive advocacy for connecting through regular gatherings is downright compelling.
Around the same time, Tara came across an article in The Atlantic titled “Americans Need to Party More,” which stated that “only 4% of Americans attended or hosted a social event on an average weekend or holiday in 2023.” According to the article, this is a 35% decrease since 2004. Both Tina and Tara were shocked by this statistic.
And here’s where the tension comes in. We both love the idea of a gathering ritual — something steady, comforting, simple, and woven into the rhythm of our lives. It sounds beautiful and grounding. But when we think about our own schedules, energy levels, families, and the very real anxieties we each have around hosting, it suddenly feels incredibly challenging. We want this… and yet we struggle to make it happen. That tension is at the heart of this episode.
It is easy to believe Samin Nosrat’s claim that a regular or ritual gathering can be profoundly life-changing. That is not a hard sell. But the stark reality is that people seem to be socializing less. If that 4% figure is true — why do people not entertain more? What keeps us from opening our homes and inviting those we have connections with (or want to connect with) to gather? Tina and Tara turn those questions on themselves and discuss their own patterns around hosting – what we enjoy, what stresses us out and what gets in the way. They discuss the pressure to “perform” and the beautiful possibility of gathering friends and family without perfection.
Some of the topics discussed today include:
• how frequently we really entertain friends and family
• the parts of hosting we love — and the parts we dread
• the sources of anxiety around opening our homes
• the time, energy, and logistical constraints that make it hard
• the pressure of social media and comparison
• why ritualized gatherings used to be more common
• the truth behind “perfect is the enemy of good”
• and simple, imperfect ways to gather that aren’t dinner parties
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